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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
拍电影的念头因你而起。分明的黑白随你而褪去。
百感交集。把自己交付给爱之后拍出的电影。想起自己的电影，只有焦虑和强迫。没有爱的对象，只有达成的对象，逼迫的对象。太暴力了。
影片里的场景进一步模糊了戏与现实的界限。尤其女演员与小说家聊天那场戏，有个女孩在玻璃门外观察，走了又回，电影几乎在与现实同呼吸。这足以体现，洪常秀是影坛中极少数不被电影形式所束缚的导演之一。他也借角色之口诉说了拍片之道，并做了自嘲。结尾的“片中片”好美，新娘金敏喜走向镜头，新郎代指的就是洪常秀吧。他可真是太浪漫了！
【Mediocre】C
洪常秀和伍迪艾伦的差距就是题材和广度上的匮乏，江郎才尽。
很难评价，看完最直观的感受是：这也可以？但这既不算否定，也不算钦佩，或是认为其庸常，只是不知道该作何评价。依赖演员的表演，在极为日常自然的对话中偶有细腻的不动声色的乍泄的灵光，也能看到摄影机及其背后富有感情的视点，但又会怀疑，对于一部电影来说，这便足够了吗？即便洪在影片中，借着角色的对谈也在试图调侃，或者说，消解这个怀疑。介于成本和团队规模，能做到这种成色的创作，是太过随意的，但又是不简单的。想来想去，只能用“自由”来作评价，他可能拥有着许多人都希望拥有的创作状态，不受限制地将那些如日记一般私藏的情感和灵光表现出来，至于别人能共情与否，也许都不重要。
完全镜像反应导演的情况让人想很多但没什么意义；如果那个小女孩是即性的就牛了
通过在无形式（现代）中不懈寻找形式以及星星点点的由阅历与灵感所相交而成的哲思，洪尚秀先生自然知道在现实中找到与在现实中放弃之区别，亦即如果可以表述为：将爱情当作事业与将事业当作爱情，
想着书店店主好像比从前胖了啊，接着就听到他们的寒暄。总听这几个人聊天，有时候隔着屏幕都开始有了参与感。在爱人的镜头下，被爱着的人像个孩子。
有点希望我不是以这种方式看到这部电影：Walter Reade的狭小空间、稀薄空气和难受座椅，filmlinc策展人自作风趣但毫无必要的冗长开场，邻座隔三差五举起手机开始屏摄，还有最让我不适的间歇性满堂彩。老实说，我就想安安静静地吃糖
反工业的任性气息非常招人喜欢。在微博上看到有人看完电影在柏林遇到洪尚秀与金敏喜，和导演交谈之后问可否与金敏喜合影，导演说“go ask her.”啊，我忽然意识到，即使是金敏喜这样美丽性感才华洋溢的女演员，也是如此艰难才会遇到让她感知爱情的人。
洪尚秀电影固定职业群体：男导演，女演员，搞文艺的男人，搞文字的女人… // 结尾低头浅笑摆弄花草的敏敏，就是本人2022上半年邂逅的最美电影瞬间~ // 转为彩色画面后，俺直呼黑白光影才是歪歪滴艾斯！！
洪尚秀近年拍的都是这种路子。几乎不讲故事了。金敏喜的演技和颜值一如既往赏心悦目。
书店老板和酒友是小说家的部分过往，女演员和电影学生是一种未来的可能。过往、现在和未来齐聚一桌，把酒畅谈。小说家也借此避开对不公现实（导演夫妇）的愤慨，就像她开头避开书店里的争吵声那样。最后短暂的彩色画面是小说家眼前一束光。
在停止写作后，小说家短暂失聪，语言系统化为身体符号靠手语得以表达。而静默中，书写的本质和拍摄的意义进行贯通。camera就是一支笔，从40分钟处，由作家+导演+演员彻底进入“小说家的电影”，当小说家极富魅力感且极度自由时，一部影片就轻盈地从镜头通道里生成。金敏喜松弛而放松，捧着小雏菊、狗尾巴草与树叶结合成的花束，她就是笑着漫步，随着两句“我爱你”和洪常秀一起进入彩色地带。这部洪导的自我剖析中，虚构不会阻碍真实从他建构的情境中发生。
有个疑问，提出来恐怕不礼貌，但知识不能不求甚解，所以还是要问：拍洪尚秀的电影需要化妆吗？
洪常秀已经放弃什么技术了，所谓的结构、黑白影像等等，看不到洪导的突破在哪里，甚至还有很多退步，这部电影最大的优势是金敏喜。这样的电影就是八卦电影，属于洪导的私密自嗨，顺带给娱乐周刊贡献一点正面回应材料。
洪的后现代性不就是巧遇嘛，写偶然性真的比写必然性要容易，要写也得写暗含着必然性的偶然性不是吗？
还挺厉害 ，拍一种不算电影的电影，而且也不算闷。有点神奇，主要还是敏后厉害
越来越觉得看洪尚秀的片子就像专门去庙里吃素斋，有一种刻意调节口味的仪式感。
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