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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
重构了整个人类文明史，又和人类没啥关系，这也导致本片没法和观众达成共情。
全程我都在想导演可太爽了吧全世界跑着拍，卡司还包含了我花痴多年的gemma chan（不过她表演比较underwhelming，太克制了）和jolie，且没有任何大油子。羡慕。之前以为是个throwaway，现在看来是漫威的下一个大团体哎，居然这么信任她！anyway这种budget这种IP，居然还是能拍出不少自己的味道，我对她前一部的厌恶减轻了不少。没想到居然还挺适合拍这种商业大片的。整体很饱满，喜欢多元设定。节奏不拖沓，只是不着急而已。对我个人来讲可看性远高于传统超英。
能在一部电影里把这么多人物讲清楚已经不容易了
强加的笑点有些尴尬，其他可。漫威起源电影里比较喜欢的一部，视觉效果太出色了。
永恒族更像X战警系列：强调少数族裔；看点在于价值观内斗，而不是打反派。
这部电影最出彩的地方大概就是《权力的游戏》里的罗柏和雪诺在聚首了吧。
比评分(5.9)要好看，至少完整讲清楚了：地球是个蛋。而且这帮人虽然很塑料感，但好像都有强于复联的能力。
勉强及格。原子弹风波的争论并非一点意义没有，这无关立场与三观，但的确很能说明，赵婷这类走纯艺路线的电影创作者，对商业大片“共情”的理解存在偏差，甚至还带有些精英视角的不屑与挑衅。之所以会让人膈应，正是在于片中的几大反类型都很没有必要。但万幸赵婷还是带来了不少独特体验，说是政治隐喻倒还有待商榷，不过东方式思辨至少是成体系的。小孩那个角色写得尤其好，按理说她受天神组迫害最深，结果关键时刻反倒成了跪得最快的。而按照好莱坞“迫害越深，反抗越强”的张力写法，这种人物很难塑造出来。
活得久就一定会睿智开悟吗。不一定噢，这片里这么多活了几千年的怪物依然很幼稚，保持童心
以神明的姿态存在，用人类的形式生活，以毁灭的视角看待创造，用背叛的方式诠释忠诚。穿越千载的守护只为颠覆，目睹无数的轮回化为虚无，充满痛苦的记忆终难背负，唯一不变的传承唯有孤独。高高在上的主宰竟然被人类创造的娱乐工具所规训，这是对神性的曲解，也是对永恒的误读，赵婷已经尽力，但漫威依旧在原地踏步。导演用公路片逻辑拍摄了一部关于超级英雄如何在网络时代传递死讯的电影：《千里报丧记》。《正义联盟》用四个小时讲五个凡人的故事，《永恒族》两个半小时讲十一个神，按笨法算也知道信息量差多少。而且阿里瑟姆的网红孵化器效率太低了，几千年才培养一个大网红，直播第一天就让公会里几个小网红给灭了，冤不冤啊。赵导还做了本土化改编，永魔症的起源在东北，只有东北人知道啥叫魔怔。本以为会看见永恒的神，却看见一群被时间摧残的人。
真的很好看，赵婷真的很擅长拿捏细微的、作为人类的情绪和瞬间。西装革履的印度大叔念一段经给亡者超度，大力士轻巧拿起炉子里巨大的铸铁锅，女神面对镜头也紧张到满嘴车轱辘话；这些细节放到一个大闹天宫的故事里，至少我看的相当满意。
几个出场人物都挺帅的 毕竟是漫威出品大场面必须酷炫屌 配乐不管多贵都给我用上 剧情嘛就…简直政治正确到令人发指 超人投日自杀的选择也雷到我了
7分。這部漫威很特別，很DC. 我喜歡趙婷賦予《永恆族》的微弱凜冽的氣質和DC般宏大的視野，許多場面非常壯觀，質感一流，也一改漫威講無聊冷笑話的習慣，盡量保持神話性質的莊嚴。看來漫威也不是不能改變，我挺喜歡這種風格的，故事很簡單，但美術、置景和特效真的很大氣。《無依之地》的美學用在那個故事上就很無聊，用在《永恆族》就對了。唯一的缺點是敘事笨重，閃回和present線來回交替未免過於臃腫，這如何體現趙婷作為一名奧斯卡級導演的聰明呢？
如果不套在MCU里，还算是个中规中矩的故事，套在里面，很多逻辑非常成问题。在还原一些历史场面的视觉语言非常精彩，除此以外探讨的主题和嵌套的故事比较空洞，多元化的政治形式远大于输出的内容，可以说是现代商业电影的绝佳反面典型。
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但后来呢，超英题材就成了XX正确的天然载体，失去了对真正宇宙和哲学的终极思考，反倒构建起了一套类似元宇宙一般的虚拟信息茧房。
看了一个多钟头ppt才开始看电影…像极了一次提案…
最近的漫威电影感觉都怪怪的，你知道它是漫威，但就是没有那个味道。
赵婷真的不适合这个题材，想讲得宏大，结果一帮小孩子。不说这个华裔主角长得怎么样，至少完全没有主角样子，你说你左手少狼主右手囧雪，你让真瑟曦演瑟曦都比这个瑟曦有气质啊，还不如让龙妈来演！
mcu这种纯纯商业片的路线里拍成这个样子其实算完满了 讲的虽然是西方超级英雄故事但其实有些中国古典传说的意境在 作者风格同样也很强烈 good job
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